tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post4816404762281152308..comments2023-05-12T15:43:13.657+08:00Comments on Alyssa Carlier | The Devil Orders Takeout: Why are we obsessed with Loki? (Or, the Elements of a Good Villain)Alyssa Carlierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-46614540758130499632015-05-22T18:27:32.089+08:002015-05-22T18:27:32.089+08:00That's such a fabulous idea, isn't it? Tha...That's such a fabulous idea, isn't it? Thanks for dropping by!<br /><br />Jo's done an amazing job with this post, judging by all these lovely comments. Loki was one of my fav characters in The Avengers, and yep, his double-dealing and his selfishness. He is rather centred around Thor, though.Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-51243662367073961532015-05-22T17:59:13.307+08:002015-05-22T17:59:13.307+08:00I found your blog through the blogger spotlight (w...I found your blog through the blogger spotlight (what makes good characters) and this totally goes along with this! It's good to know that some people really consider these things deeply. I loved Loki as a character, too, especially since he wasn't a "Named Nemesis" (which happens too much in my opinion) where he's just decided he's against the main hero and that's that. I love his constant side switching, his relatability, and the fact that he's thoughtful enough to be out for himself instead of out against the main character. Danni Maehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17470311076336983726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-51536131350988864062015-05-22T17:25:21.457+08:002015-05-22T17:25:21.457+08:00aslkjdljksd HE IS SO AWESOME. GO KILL EVERYONE, LO...aslkjdljksd HE IS SO AWESOME. GO KILL EVERYONE, LOKI.<br /><br />I'm not sure you want to develop daddy issues and grey morals, but charisma is a great thing to have. The spectrum of morality is just so fun to play with, though. <br /><br />You're very welcome!Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-20759972408915872012015-05-22T14:08:50.321+08:002015-05-22T14:08:50.321+08:00akdfjdkljs Loki is so awesome, and for all these r...akdfjdkljs Loki is so awesome, and for all these reasons! He really does have a lot of things I feel like are important in every villain, as Jo highlights, and in some ways, things I wish I could develop in myself. Also, I just adore the morality thing. It's so fun to contemplate! :D Thanks for the daily takeout of Loki, Jo, and of course to you, Alyssa, for hosting! :)Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16797485444727976121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-37283210878497460532015-05-21T17:36:25.667+08:002015-05-21T17:36:25.667+08:00Mmm, I definitely agree -- but it's also hard ...Mmm, I definitely agree -- but it's also hard to get the exact balance between villainy and victimisation. I love a carefully crafted backstory.Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-48859391330841805182015-05-20T19:18:26.395+08:002015-05-20T19:18:26.395+08:00Ooh yes excellent points here! I do love a good vi...Ooh yes excellent points here! I do love a good villain and a backstory is probably the most important thing to it!Melaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17035338608975371558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-67258976230241357082015-05-19T17:01:02.609+08:002015-05-19T17:01:02.609+08:00You're very welcome! Great to work with you :)...You're very welcome! Great to work with you :)Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-74253217077420621082015-05-19T14:10:19.960+08:002015-05-19T14:10:19.960+08:00Thanks for having me! :DThanks for having me! :Djodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15645843961463128576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-91536098033680772542015-05-19T07:40:33.678+08:002015-05-19T07:40:33.678+08:00Humour is always fantastic. Ultron had such snark!...Humour is always fantastic. Ultron had such snark! *whispers back* That's okay. Just go and visit my Thor post to soothe your fangirl feels.Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-84804497722240881202015-05-19T07:39:31.200+08:002015-05-19T07:39:31.200+08:00Yes! Classic 100% villains CAN still be written we...Yes! Classic 100% villains CAN still be written well, but villains who are intelligent, who are charming, who have reasons for their villainy -- THOSE are the new trade of villains.Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-23102983163459743002015-05-19T07:37:07.122+08:002015-05-19T07:37:07.122+08:00Yep, we scheduled them to go up together -- though...Yep, we scheduled them to go up together -- thought it would create better cohesion! Diva indeed -- we do love Loki for his charm.Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-85749473996199438952015-05-19T07:35:53.879+08:002015-05-19T07:35:53.879+08:00Ahahaha, yes, that could be a reason. (AND how sai...Ahahaha, yes, that could be a reason. (AND how said fans tend to de-villain-ify himin fanfiction. His villainy is the POINT.)Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-6904856120872685692015-05-19T07:35:07.267+08:002015-05-19T07:35:07.267+08:00Well, the mythology technically came first, so you...Well, the mythology technically came first, so you're still safe XD You should probably watch Thor at least, because Loki's backstory there was fabulous -- the Avengers pulled through mainly on charm and oblique references.Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-83764426518429468102015-05-18T20:43:29.523+08:002015-05-18T20:43:29.523+08:00I like it when a villain is funny, so even though ...I like it when a villain is funny, so even though I'll probably not like them, I still like that they can make me laugh. <br /><br />Confession time: *whispers* I don't actually like Loki. Am I the only one? Thor is my favourite! Chantellehttps://ohthestoriesyoullknow.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-81521482465078450422015-05-18T18:50:50.852+08:002015-05-18T18:50:50.852+08:00Oooh I loved this, and absolutely agree. Loki is s...Oooh I loved this, and absolutely agree. Loki is such a great character because he's not of the norm. When we think of villains we think of sadistic monsters, but more and more we are seeing people exploring the backstory to these characters. LOVE IT. Joy @ Thoughts By Jhttp://thoughtsbyj.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-10731379150104575352015-05-18T02:39:01.275+08:002015-05-18T02:39:01.275+08:00oh. my. gosh. I assume y'all planned the post...oh. my. gosh. I assume y'all planned the post interlapping? BECAUSE I HAVE SO MUCH "YES" FOR THIS I MUST SQUEAL.<br />The points are all great (a tad diva!) and my day is complete with those loki gifs. Thanks, Jo :)<br /><br />Chloe | <a href="http://www.curiousramblingsbychloe.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Curious Ramblings</a><br /><br />Chloe https://www.blogger.com/profile/08880494407977778602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-42984036041055199012015-05-17T20:49:42.351+08:002015-05-17T20:49:42.351+08:00Just a pretty british guy playing him in the movie...Just a pretty british guy playing him in the movies. Notice how the majority of hardcore Loki fans don't even care for comics or Marvel? There's your answer ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14732849096161512735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-77780891534852561482015-05-17T20:06:20.597+08:002015-05-17T20:06:20.597+08:00OH NO, OH NO, I AM SO SORRY FOR NOT KNOWING ANYTHI...OH NO, OH NO, I AM SO SORRY FOR NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. *hides* (I neeeed to learn things about Avengers. I apologise. But this does have me quite convinced, because I'm a sucker for good villains. Loki is also one of my favourite mythological characters, so. :P.)Appletailehttp://thisisthetaile.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-30980707430117155642015-05-17T19:07:12.135+08:002015-05-17T19:07:12.135+08:00Even Thor loves him. I think the only people who d...Even Thor loves him. I think the only people who don't love him are Odin (who cares about HIM) and Loki himself, a little bit. Backstory is sometimes a little overused -- I have had villains ruined by backstory -- but personality and charisma never run dry.Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-44562542584285402632015-05-17T12:25:36.565+08:002015-05-17T12:25:36.565+08:00Oh, Loki, Loki, Loki...who honestly doesn't lo...Oh, Loki, Loki, Loki...who honestly doesn't love him? I think having a great personality is part of what makes a good villain great, and also backstory. Something to make their evilness legitimate is always welcome.Precious @ Clockwork Desireshttp://clockworkdesires.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-60018687672948320962015-05-17T11:02:27.976+08:002015-05-17T11:02:27.976+08:00OH YES. CUTENESS HELPS. *soothes your fangirl-Hulk...OH YES. CUTENESS HELPS. *soothes your fangirl-Hulk with a lullaby* Tom Hiddleston is sort of just branded in my head as 'the cute person known as LOKI', ahaha.Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-53533373331786964132015-05-17T11:00:23.841+08:002015-05-17T11:00:23.841+08:00I'm working on creating a villain for the new ...I'm working on creating a villain for the new WIP, and while I'm trying to veer away from backstory, I am working really hard on personality. Charisma is a difficult skill!Alyssa Carlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10995554896786109238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-78095802363900507842015-05-17T08:21:28.755+08:002015-05-17T08:21:28.755+08:00These are good points but you also forgot HE'S...These are good points but you also forgot HE'S CUTE AS HECK.<br /><br />Love this post and the Thor post, the fangirl-Hulk inside of me is about to burst through my chest.<br /><br />O | <a href="http://lifeasyounglady.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Life as a Young Lady</a>O Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311204980320477371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2981664243653036268.post-48688253391974270172015-05-16T22:16:32.177+08:002015-05-16T22:16:32.177+08:00Great points--I really do think backstory and pers...Great points--I really do think backstory and personality are everything, especially when creating a villain. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04177685866335675217noreply@blogger.com